I left in 1995 too. I was young and recently graduate highschool. If I stayed trapped in the religion I wouldn't have a college education, a good job, a home, and a retirement fund. I more than likely would be working part-time while pioneering if I stayed in.
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What Happened to the Religion I Left in 1995?
by JoshJeffries injosh here, new to the board.
glad to know this site is here.. i would not be writing this if it were not 2014. i was a ministerial servant and regular pioneer who left the jehovahs witnesses back in 1995/96, around that time.
i left suddenly, didnt fade away, just left when something clicked one day in my head during the morning shower and made me realize this religion wasnt true.
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JW GB MEMBER CAUGHT ON CAMERA!!!
by ADJUSTMENTS ingb member and so called "annointed" person geoffry jackson is caught red handed on video doing some worldly dancing and sexual gyrating (they have spoken against such manner of dancing on several occasions) with a woman who is not his wife!!!
i can only imagine what they do off camera now!!!.
i would not have even considerd doing such a thing on the dance floor with a woman, especially if it was not my wife, and i'm not even one of the so called "annointed" smh!!!
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Reading the title I expected to see something outrageous. What I saw was nothing out of the ordinary. Anyone outside of the JW religion or not having any experience with it would think this post to be quite strange. However being raised in it and knowing that his dancing, though poorly, is nothing to get worked over, but would be condemn by most elders. In fact there has been countless articles and special talks on this sort of activity.
Overall this video will have little impact on most witnesses or non-witnesses as it comes across as harmless. If he was grinding her or other dancing then it would be different.
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Stay Alive till '75
by John Chapman in"stay alive till '75.
" remember that?
note: this is the year 5774 not 2014. why didn't they tell you that in 5735 (1975 ad?
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I think John has had too many anal probes from aliens.
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Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs
by Lady Lee inthw wts likes to play games with their statistics.
one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?
if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.
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Do you know of cases like this? If so then can you answer a few more questions.
Yes
Had this person been DFed or in real danger of being DFed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?
No, she was in good standing and liked by most in the Hall.
Would you consider that any shunning of the person might have pushed a person over the edge?
She was never shunned.
What status did they have in the cong - baptized or not, elder, MS, woman, minor, active or not, any abuse issues, possible discipline coming up. . .
She was baptized for perhaps 15 years.
She was a very beautiful woman of the age 29 or 30 at the time of her suicide. Her JW husband left her for another christian sister several years earlier. He was DF but quickly reinstated the same year. She was severely depressed and would comfort herself with booze. Her sister lived beside her and went in her house to find her nude hanging from a rafter.
This happened I believe in 1999 or early 2000. So sad and what a waste of life. I left the religion shortly afterwards so I have not much knowledge of other suicides.
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At what age did you notice time went by so fast?
by adjusted knowledge ini like so many americans left my parent's house as soon as i could (age 19).
i would see them maybe one or two times a year for the next ten years.
when i hit thirty and got married it was even less frequent.
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I like so many Americans left my parent's house as soon as I could (age 19). I would see them maybe one or two times a year for the next ten years. When I hit thirty and got married it was even less frequent. However now that they are retired at sixty two and I had my daughter last year they visit monthly. I never really took the time because of work and just the busy life so many of us live to take notice of my parents. In the living room of my house I looked over at my father. Most of his hair is gone, his face has aged much in comparison to the man that raised me. Though retirement has done him good from his high stressed career, time has caught up with him. My mother too looks so tired and worned though she is only recently retired and I hope retirement will bring her some happiness; though she puts her hope in The Society.
It was then I got this idea to go to the bathroom and stare in the mirror. Really, I have never bothered to look in the mirror. It is just a passing glance to the shower or the occasional glance while brushing my teeth. Though I'm only thirty seven, the face staring back at me looks like a man well pass his mid-40's. My dark brown hair is streaked with grey, dark circles under my eyes, and the early stages of facial wrinkles.
I felt so much older and that my youth slipped away to a religion that didn't allow for a normal childhood. Though I felt a momentary anger at parents in the other room it soon passed as I heard my baby laughing. They bought into the lies and thought a promise of eternal life for their family appealing. Now nearing forty years later and we are all aging, and so many have passed away. I get a little sad when I have time to think about how short our lives are and is why perhaps I never took notice.
So when did you notice that you feel old or that life went by fast? I know with good health I should see another 40 or 50 years but that really isn't too far off.
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JW internal warfare threatens the Tract campaign
by Quarterback ini overheard this argument re the new tract campaign.
one elder told a publisher, to hide the tract in the mailbox if the home owner wasn't home.
the publisher was used to folding the tip of the tract, and just left a tip showing.
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If I ever saw anyone open my mail box other than a postal employee I would light their ass on fire. I manage to make sure most of my accounts don't send statements but I do get medical statements.
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My mother listed me as a Jehovah's Witness at the Hospital for a pending emergency surgery
by adjusted knowledge ini've been having some medical issues recently and had to check into the emgerceny hospital.
when they admitted me the registar asked my mother my religion.
she told them jehovah's witness.
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I've been having some medical issues recently and had to check into the emgerceny hospital. When they admitted me the registar asked my mother my religion. She told them Jehovah's Witness. I have not been an active witness (field service and regular meeting attendance) since 1996. I also had no idea she told them this information. In my medical file I'm simply listed Christian.
While I was in my assigned room the nurse was hooking up my IVs and my mother, wife, and her friend was in the room. The surgeon was enroute to disucss my procedure. Then with no announcement a man pops in the room and says my name. "Oh, you are a Jehovah's Witnesses" For one I never understand this type of proclamation. Like you never see others enter a room or social setting exclaiming, hey you're a Baptist? Anyways, besides the over the top enter, the others in the room look confused including myself. I'm like how in the hell did they find me here? Then I noticed my mom get up and make a prompt exit.
I could tell my wife was upset because she doesn't like the religion at all and especially its opposition to traditions they label as pagan. She didn't know about their blood prohibition. I explained to this elder I am inactive for nearly 18 years and only attend meetings sporadically with my mother. Then he explained that I must still consider myself a witness since I listed myself as one and at that point is when I realized my mother must behind this.
This elder then ask me if I had the "blood card". That wasn't his words but I knew what he meant. I told him I again have not been active for nearly 18 years and do not want to discuss this further since I'm in pain. I told him my procedure will not require blood but if it did then I will let my wife make the decision. He left and then came back 5 minutes later. After the second time I started telling him about the recent changes in teachings and including the blood doctrine changes. He left for good that time. I was so mad at my mother. I was in the hospital for six days and was visited two more times by two different elders. They were nice men and sincere but I was in no mood for conversation. If this is their method of convinicing the lost sheep to return they need help in the marketing department. My wife is now more opposed than ever.
The hospital is a small one with almost no security so it was difficult for them to enforce no visitors. Well, actually the hospital in general is poorly managed and my entire week was terrible. Good thing is I'm home and will return to work in a week. I'm glad I have a decent job that pays me while I'm on a leave.
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How much did the other countries pay for the 1000 kingdom halls in the philippines!
by StephaneLaliberte inref: http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/construction/1000-kingdom-halls-philippines/.
while looking at the article one thousand kingdom halls and counting on jw.org, it immediately made me think: ahhh, this is where a large portion of the funds for the construction projects must go.
clearly, the philippinos are all poor and they need the financial support of richer countries.
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Have you been to the Philippines? I have been there and visit often. My wife is from the island of Cebu and I've stayed in Manilla, Cebu, and Bohol. Comparing the poverty of the Philippines to the USA is not a fair comparison. Our poor are fat, have cell phones, cars ect..... My first visit to the country, I had a man with one arm amputated with his eye sunken into his skull begging for food. He had two small children next to him also starved. While staying in my sister-in-law's house in Cebu, there were little children who would dig in the burn pile for items to recycle. I saw countless shacks on the side of streets with entire families living in them. On the sidewalk again were these tent cities. Never in my entire life have I once witness such poverty in the USA. My wife lost three brother's to diseases when they were in their early thirties. They don't know the cause of death because lack of money for medical. I saw a man who laid in the street for hours with half his head missing from a car accident. No ambulance and no police for hours because he was a no body. Yes, I've seen tent cities here in the states and yes I've seen families living in vans and cars when the economy crashed but still doesn't compare to a country that has virtually no safety nets for its citizens.
With that being said I do agree with your overall point. The Jehovah Witnesses could do so much for these people but do very little. They want to beat on their chest when they construct a few homes that were destroyed in a storm but for those that are not members nothing.
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More Research On Acquired Characteristics/Evolution
by metatron inhttp://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-07/cumc-ssh071614.php.
a new direction in evolution research.
if so, it could make creationists heads explode.. .
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Epigenetics is fascinating but also much misunderstood.
It is NOT Lamarkianism!
"The Epigenetics Revolution" by Nessa Carey is a good introduction.
Thanks for the suggestion. It does sounds similar to what Lamarck proposed. I often thought there was credence to what he suggested and was not always in conflict with dwarwinism. I have not studied evolution in any great detail, though abiogenesis is a topic I enjoy reading up on. Most of my biology studies concentrated for the health profession but does give me a good foundation to have a deeper understanding on these topics.
There was a recent study on metabolism of inorganic molecules. The chemistry looked similar to the Kreb cycle from what I saw of the paper but not quite as complex. But the neat thing is unlike celluar respiration needing an enzyme the study showed that the metabolism required metal ions as the catalyst. Though abiogenesis and epigenetics is far away from answering the origin of life, it does give some clearer indications of how logically it could of started and continues to change.
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Commenting At The Meetings---Did You Enjoy It?
by minimus inwas that important for you?
most people, i believe, forced themselves to give an answer.
i knew many elders and servants over the years being counseled because they rarely answered.. funny thing....my mom who is 88 cries if she doesn't give a comment.
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I remembered being embarassed when my younger brother would comment. I recall during the evolution study book him commenting on some strange theory of how God used the dinosaurs to form the earth and then how paleontologist evented new species. Then thinking back my seven year old brother made more sense than most GB new light.